(09-26-2009 02:50 PM)WolfpupNX Wrote: [ -> ]If I'm not mistaken you're affiliated with this machine, yes?
40 videos? I only thought I saw 10 or so on the site, but maybe there are other publishers?
And yes, absolutely the Virtual Sex Machine would be cheaper the more you used it - I just meant it's sort of a question of cheaper vs. less repetitive but more expensive. (Though now RealTouch has announced with packages it's going to be more like just under 50 cents a minutes for the best package - still adds up, but that's much better IMO).
I was counting by clips, not entire videos.
And as I said, we haven't touched on the experience yet, as there is only one experience that has been available.
Sort of an "apple and oranges" kind of thing. But we'll see.
There are other contributing expense factors in day to day use. But so as to not appear to be "knocking" another product, I'll let you find those out for yourself.
and remember even at 50 centers per minute, that's one time, one use, per minute, next time, pay again. No money this week? No joy.
It's the same reason there is still a brisk DVD business, and people don't like paying Pay per view on their cable box.
But maybe that's the answer? If people like paying every time they use their machine, so be it. More money for the vendor.
(09-26-2009 05:56 PM)whocares Wrote: [ -> ]VSM and RealTouch are actually similarly priced on content. Roughly $40 gets you 80min of video on both systems. Of course details surrounding the video is completely different (quality, variety, persistence, etc).
Being able to keep the video forever is nice (for those favorites), but:
and VSM's video format is Video CD:
"Overall picture quality is intended to be comparable to VHS video."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Video_CD
Not looking to argue, but the price is NOT the same.
With VSM, you OWN the content...forever. Never have to pay again.
It's the same as having the movie on your shelf (Or on your PC) avaibale for you to watch anytime you want.
It doesn't expire within one minute, or one day....along with the money you've spent.
Your other point is valid, the "big stars."
It's a much more complicated answer, and you will probably just attack me if I delve into it.
I'd suggest you read this article from AVN Online magazine, July 2001:
Virtual Future of the sleeping sex industry<<<Click link
(09-26-2009 07:04 PM)realman Wrote: [ -> ]@DeepThroat :
I'm just wondering why you have never partnered with an established adult entertainment company? Have you tried? It seems like you have been trying to do this all on your own and that is why the VSM hasn't been the commercial success it could have been.
If I were you I would stop knocking the RealTouch and start praying that it is a huge success for AEBN. Then you might have other adult buisnesses beating down your door to help you develop your machine.
The VSM partnered with Homegrown video from the beginning. But other studios were a bit tougher. Not being part of the "west coast porn industry" didn't help.
I could write a book about the two "halves" of the industry, but it could be best described by the fact that AVN had 2 magazines for years.....
AVN, and AVN Online. (They have recently merged the mags into one...in fact. this is the first month for the combined issue)
The Adult industry had 2 distinct classes...."movies" and "Web." And "movies" IN NO WAY like Web.
The VSM problem is, it was light years ahead of it's time (Which is only now becoming something the public can get their head around- no pun intended)
And both industries viewed it with suspicion. The "movie" indsutry, because it was a "new electronic thing." The online industry because most of them only had electronic rights to their content, and not publishing, or disc rights.
After the initial decision to ship the product with the content on VRCD, which is actually an online codec, pressed onto a disc, it was hard getting licensing rights.
Again, read the above article, as it covers most of this.
The decision to ship on disc was made for the customer experience reason. Back in 2000, streaming was a novelty. It's only NOW becoming a reality for most Americans, but is still subject to interruption, quality, etc.
But your point is well taken, it has not been the commercial success (yet) it will be. And it's more about the studios coming around. AEBN "backed into" the rights to use their content. Unless I'm much mistaken they aren't paying any more money for the rights to use the same content for their product. But they ONLY have limited, live "streaming/download and play/download and burn" (as it is based on title) for the videos available.
AEBN hasn't really "partnered" with the studios on their product....they are applying existing licenses to a new revenue stream. And that's a good thing.
On the other hand, The VSM does offer "partnerships" with any studios with their private label product. (Like the Sammy4U people)
This discussion, in itself would warrant an entire book...."Dealing with the adult studios." (The article referenced above covers some of this)
Remember, the Virtual Sex business is still a VERY new field. We are just at the birthing stages of this. Although the VSM has been available for 9 years, it was just way ahead of its time. Massive marketing bucks from AEBN (earned from that $1 a minute) may just be the thing that blows this field up, and gets people to really notice. So you're absolutely right, AEBN's success WILL be a big boon for this field. And I am praying for it. Again, the experience will be the decider, and the content will come secondary. But the content will come too.
The reality of what you get for your money will be the decider. But there is plenty of room in this field. There is no reason people have to have one or the other. Allot of people, will probably buy both.
And since the rest of the industry is sucking wind on revenues right now, they may be a bit more friendly when it comes to exploiting these new areas of content distribution.
When you consider the tons of content out there available (Since 1983) and the amount of it that sits on dusty shelves, it's just a matter of time.
An interesting fact is, the studios often can't give away "older" DVDs for $1 to Video stores. (These are the ones you see in the "blow out sales $9.99" at the video store)
Once the perception of the content is as being "old," they can 't sell it for $25-38 wholesale anymore. That window is VERY small....like 1-3 months, unless you refer to a title like "pirates." It's also why you won't find any of Digital Playground's titles on AEBN's site. Go ahead....check.
But answer me this? Does Jenna Jameson from 10 years ago still look hot?
Of course she does. And while you may have "seen" her before, how about "feeling" her now?
The studios are the key though...unfortunately, not the stars themselves. The sad fact is, most of the stars gave away all the licensing rights to their content years ago. The studios are sitting on the pots of gold.
It's going to be a VERY exciting future. The people gathered here are the early adopters, and are way ahead of the curve. So while we slice and dice the current situation, the bulk of humanity isn't even aware of the possibilities.........yet.
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