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Hey guys, as I sit here (im)patiently waiting for my realtouch to arrive, I'm doing some reading, and am not too excited about the rate at which it uses lube. I own a fleshlight and from the forums there I discovered and began using a homemade xanthan gum based lube. It is a bit thicker (more like a jelly) than your average lube, but that can be adjusted by playing with the recipe. Honestly I slightly prefer store bought lube but for how cheap this is to make I'm happy to compromise! Some guys prefer it to store bought, maybe I just need to tweak the recipe more to my liking.

Here is one recipe:

1/4 tsp xanthan gum
3 tsp glycerin
4 ounces water
+ a small amount of some preservative if wanted, i use less than 1/8th teaspoon methylparaben

You can experiment with adding more or less glycerin and water. Next time I make a batch I plan on using more water and probably 3 times the amount of glycerin (or just less x.gum by ratio)

I'm wondering if this will be ok to use with the realtouch? It is extremely cheap to make, and it is water soluble, though a small amount of xanthan gum goes a long way so it does take quite a bit of water to flush out. I'm guessing since it is water based, a thinner recipe will probably work great with the lube pump, and since it's so cheap I have no issue getting a little messy, just let it stay nice and wet!

Any thoughts would be appreciated! I'm not yet sure if I want to risk such an expensive toy on being too cheap to buy lube

One recipe I know of is:

4 teaspoons of Corn Starch
1 Cup of Water

Bring to a boil for a few minutes, and let it simmer. Stir until smooth. Store in a jar at room temperature.

Not sure how well this would work with the device though. I'm still deciding if I want to get a RealTouch or not.

(11-28-2009 09:50 AM)SuperPsyze Wrote: [ -> ]One recipe I know of is:

4 teaspoons of Corn Starch
1 Cup of Water

Bring to a boil for a few minutes, and let it simmer. Stir until smooth. Store in a jar at room temperature.

Not sure how well this would work with the device though. I'm still deciding if I want to get a RealTouch or not.

I've tried that once and was not at all impressed. The xanthan gum recipe is much more like the real stuff.

I'm getting my RealTouch tomorrow (very excited!) so I've been looking into this a bit more.

Turns out the correct usage of methylparaben as a preservative is .05%-2% (at least thats what was recommended for lotions, I'm sure that's close enough)

So for this recipe, it makes a little more than half cup, i rounded 1/2 cup up to 120 ml (still will be a touch more with glycerin added) and .05% was 1/8tsp (0.6 mL) and 2% is 2.4 mL is just under 1/2 tsp (0.48). So 1/4 tsp methylparaben is about right.

If you are going to make it yourself, make sure you use a PERFECTLY DRY mixing container (and mixing tool) and add the xanthan gum in first, next add the glycerin and mix until it's all dissolved (or as close as you can get it). Now mix in HOT water a bit at a time while mixing fairly vigorously. Sometimes there will still be tiny particles but they will dissolve over time, you don't have to wait to use it though.

I am going to try and make a much more dilute version (probably close to twice the amount of water, I'll just mix it as I go and make it approximately the same consistency as the lube that comes with the realtouch. I just saw a recipe someone made using the same amount of glycerin and xanthan gum, and twice the amount of water, so I have a feeling that's what I'll hone in on.

First time I made this lube, I noticed it is not translucent, it has a very pale yellowish color, so I wondered, what thickener do commercial water based lubes use?

So I looked up the ingredients of many popular water based lubes, and sure enough, a few ingredients kept popping up, particularly this one, that seems to be used by pretty much all the big names (gun oil, id, astroglide, etc) and that is: Hydroxyethylcellulose.

Here is a description:
Hydroxyethylcellulose is a non-ionic, water soluble polymer used as a thickening agent for aqueous cosmetic and personal care formulations. It will produce crystal clear gel products and thicken the aqueous phase of cosmetic emulsions. It can be also be used to efficiently thicken shampoos, body washes and shower gels.

That sounds absolutely perfect! I will have to try to order some one of these days, if anyone is going to try to make lube themselves, I would recommend trying the hydroxyethylcellulose instead of the xanthan gum, the ratio will probably be different.

*Whew!* Long post!

Water based lube should always be used. Because of the pump system if you use something really thick it could lock it up.

Yup,

This is actually a completely water based lube, I whipped up a batch earlier that was composed of:
1.2 mL xanthan gum (1/4 tsp)
1.2 mL methylparaben
5 mL glycerin (1 tbsp)
And water to acheive total vol about 2/3 cup or about 160-170 mL.

The result is quite thin, I'm approximating it's a bit thinner than astroglide, I may add some more glycerin to make it a bit more syrupy. Using enough of it it does sufficiently lubricate (haven't tried with the realtouch yet since I don't have it yet, and will finish the lube it comes with first). The x.gum makes it thick, the glycerin I'd describe between a syrup and an oil. All of the ingredients are soluble in water, so It should be completely safe for the pump. Except for the x.gum many commercial lubes use the other ingredients.

I will say this, try it on the belts first..if it's thick I would avoid putting it in the lube reservoir. It's always a use at your own risk, if you are not using the compound we came up with. Just basic stuff of course.

While I'm certainly not endorsing their product in any way, I'd be REAL careful with any solution like that. Beyond the obvious factors of gumming up the pumping system, you are putting an unknown solution on "delicate flesh," and then rubbing it in with a "belt sander like" motion.

Any undissolved "bits" could cause serious physical damage to penile tissue, as well as the soft parts of the machine. In addition, improperly suspended/combine chemicals, although innocuous when combined, could result in irritation in their uncombined physical state.

Definitely a product liability issue that scares the bejesus out of me.